1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:08,210 If singing is vibrating, moving, the body 2 00:00:08,210 --> 00:00:12,180 what moves exactly? 3 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:16,710 Let's try to get inside the throat 4 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:22,150 go in through the nose or mouth and enter the tube 5 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:26,300 to get to the bottom to the vocal folds 6 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:33,650 What would happen if we were to go inside? 7 00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:36,090 Let's put a tube in the mouth 8 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,900 In this case, Santi has not only stretched the VF 9 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:25,650 but also tightened and the false vocal cords 10 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:30,690 and the laryngeal vestibule close a little 11 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:55,970 In this case, you see that the false vocal folds close a little 12 00:02:55,980 --> 00:03:00,900 When the system works well 13 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:05,080 a movement is produced in the VF, causing a wave 14 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,700 and which is vibration 15 00:03:06,700 --> 00:03:14,240 This movement is similar to a wave 16 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:20,720 But if we observe slowly 17 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:28,360 we realized the the VF has tightened so much 18 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,870 that he has almost run out of voice 19 00:03:32,870 --> 00:03:37,480 In a situation of maximum tension and stiffness 20 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,000 the VF can no longer create a mucosal wave 21 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,850 it has passed from maximum flexibility to a state of rigidity 22 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:50,280 Can you see the mucosal wave? 23 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,000 There is always mucus on the surface of the VF 24 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,520 and this is what makes the VF move 25 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,200 without mucus it cannot move 26 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,700 And now, can you see 27 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:05,000 how on the piano level the wave gets smaller? 28 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,500 The VF don't close 29 00:04:07,500 --> 00:04:10,730 and they leave much more space between the edges 30 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,180 The forte is the opposite 31 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:19,420 a huge mucosal wave is produced 32 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:23,220 because the air comes out under greater pressure 33 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,690 We have seen maximum rigidity 34 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,970 the VF lock and no sound is produced at all 35 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:07,130 Elasticity is fundamental and it is also important 36 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:13,670 that the VF approach each other in order to produce a wave 37 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Let's make life a little more difficult for Santi 38 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,860 We now go down his nose 39 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:26,500 A tube down the nose is a little more uncomfortable 40 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:28,790 (through the mouth it is normally more acceptable 41 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 much faster,except if you suffer from nausea 42 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,520 and in fact around 10% of people 43 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,080 feel nausea simply brushing their teeth) 44 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,530 but it can be done 45 00:05:39,530 --> 00:05:45,670 So let's do it going through the nose and singing 46 00:05:49,030 --> 00:05:53,720 Let's see first how the soft palate moves 47 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,630 and then the VF and vocal tract 48 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 "Shall we listen to him singing first?" 49 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:42,230 The question is: 50 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:45,030 "Could you imagined what Santi looks like inside? 51 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:47,000 Or have you just seen his outward appearance? 52 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,120 We might be able to imagine his insides 53 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,100 but it´s necessary to have a clearer idea of 54 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:54,560 how he is built 55 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,600 but let's try to imagine 56 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,610 and above all try to see inside him 57 00:06:58,610 --> 00:07:01,460 using these endoscopic instruments 58 00:07:01,460 --> 00:07:03,000 Let's go inside 59 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 We enter through the nose 60 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 this is the bridge of the nose 61 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,000 and to the side there are a number of structures 62 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,200 called turbinates,that moisturize the air that enters 63 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,100 Further back, there are several turbinates 64 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:24,800 this one here you see is more swollen 65 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,680 and at the back of the nose 66 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:40,400 we have adenoids and at the bottom the soft palate 67 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,800 You have seen that when he tried 68 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,730 to find more harmonics 69 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:09,000 he has to close the soft palate 70 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,820 it doesn't help simply resting it against the pharyngeal wall 71 00:08:10,820 --> 00:08:13,970 It is necessary to close it otherwise the harmonics escape 72 00:08:13,970 --> 00:08:18,520 You have to find the place where it can resonate 73 00:08:18,530 --> 00:08:20,620 in the head and not go through the nose 74 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800 What happens in the second part of the song? 75 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 We will see that he also seeks a harmonic area 76 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,120 and does the same thing again 77 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:38,180 You can see that the cavity always tries to open to a maximum 78 00:09:38,180 --> 00:09:44,620 If the cavity closes the sound does not progress very far 79 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:50,000 and a strangled sound is produced 80 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:56,000 What would happen if the sound becomes strangled? 81 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Now he is going to produce a strangled sound 82 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,310 He finds this difficult as he is a professional singer 83 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:07,230 but he will try to close a little 84 00:10:07,230 --> 00:10:10,500 We will see that by closing the sound changes as does the cavity 85 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:11,600 Shall we see? 86 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,790 What do you feel inside? 87 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:17,000 I did it on purpose, and I opened this space 88 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,950 while trying to sing at the same time 89 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Have you seen how open it is? That's what I do, open it 90 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:31,000 Now, can you sing the same thing tighter? 91 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:19,250 Excellent. It is very,very clear 92 00:11:19,250 --> 00:11:23,530 This is a very difficult area to control 93 00:11:23,530 --> 00:11:27,110 We call it the vocal tract 94 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:30,910 and this area is extremely difficult to control 95 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:36,330 because there is not a single muscle that performs the action we want 96 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:41,000 There are muscles that can make a similar function together 97 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,430 and produce the desired effects 98 00:11:45,430 --> 00:11:48,840 and it is the result of the movement of his jaw 99 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,850 how we throw down the larynx to find the point 100 00:11:53,850 --> 00:11:57,200 where the throat works best 101 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,860 And these movements are different for each singer 102 00:11:59,870 --> 00:12:11,230 each man and woman, even each soprano 103 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:19,410 Everyone has to adapt their own cavity to obtain the best result 104 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:27,500 It is a privilege to see this when a singer is singing 105 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:31,070 And this fact has only been possible in the last few years 106 00:12:31,070 --> 00:12:35,000 Endoscopes began to be used around the 80s 107 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,750 and before that we used techniques from 100 years ago 108 00:12:40,750 --> 00:12:43,650 But now that I can see every day 109 00:12:43,650 --> 00:12:45,900 everyone wants a little more 110 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:49,740 I would like to see how the pieces move 111 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:52,630 Wouldn't you like to see what it all does? 112 00:12:53,630 --> 00:13:03,470 Let's imagine how Kiri Te Kanawa sings 113 00:13:03,470 --> 00:13:08,110 and how she makes the tongue move 114 00:13:08,110 --> 00:13:09,910 Is it a lot or not? 115 00:13:12,140 --> 00:13:15,350 With the endoscope we cannot see the tongue 116 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,100 It can be seen from outside 117 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:20,000 we can see a little bit when you sing or speak 118 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,920 but we can't see the deep tongue 119 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,860 Our tongue is huge, really huge 120 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:35,910 And if we understood how it moves 121 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:45,320 it would be easier to learn how to use it 122 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,940 Now, we will do an exercise of imagination 123 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:52,290 when KiriTeKanawa sings, "Mio bambino caro" 124 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:54,710 and we imagine what is happening in the throat 125 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:57,880 All right?We will do this task 126 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:08,760 What you can see is an MRI in real time 127 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,870 It is a new technique because when you performance a resonance 128 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:17,960 the first thing that you say is "do not move, please" 129 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,870 And we remain in the same position for a long time 130 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:24,310 This new MRI in real time was carried out by the "Span group" 131 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:27,500 an engineering and linguistics research team from the University of Southern California 132 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,480 They have released a real-time dynamic resonance 133 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,600 that permits us to see the body movements with clarity 134 00:15:35,610 --> 00:15:39,880 The first devices are now being manufactured in different places 135 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:45,600 but perhaps soon we will be able to accurately analyze 136 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:54,420 and also teach how a person should place their tongue 137 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:57,610 It would be possible to look at the person teaching you 138 00:15:57,610 --> 00:16:08,500 and correct you with a visual control that can give you much better help 139 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:13,610 In Spain, the MRI in Real time has not yet arrived, but it will come 140 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:19,700 It will be used for speakers and for singers, to study heart problems 141 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:23,000 and to see how other functional situations work 142 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,100 And when you can see how things work you can give a better solution to the patient 143 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:31,660 Of course, one of the most immediate applications of this technique 144 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:34,660 has been the study of movements of the tongue 145 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:39,030 Did you find it interesting to see how the tongue is moving? 146 00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:45,230 Did you imagine that we had such a large, dynamic tongue, as we have seen? 147 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:49,800 Do you think it is difficult to control? 148 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Very difficult, isn't it? 149 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Look how agile the tongue is 150 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,150 It is amazing 151 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,500 And look how the lips are used to generate pressure. 152 00:17:52,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Santi, after seeing this MRI what do you think about this movement? 153 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:08,800 Tell us,when you analyzed the videos, what ideas did you have? 154 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,320 Well, this video gives you a precise idea of the movements 155 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:22,100 that a singer makes when they are singing 156 00:18:24,700 --> 00:18:29,250 We even found movement defects too, i.e., 157 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:31,420 when we can hear a tight sound produced by the soprano 158 00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:35,100 this corresponds to when the tongue is placed to the back of the mouth 159 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,700 at the time of an acute tone it appears 160 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:51,540 that the tongue is pulled back 161 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:53,430 rather than thrown forward 162 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 The movement of the vocal tract in a singer with these devices is clear 163 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,130 In the future, this system will be able to help us a lot 164 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:07,200 Why do I say this? 165 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,770 Because, today, a singer can only work with a piano and the ear teacher 166 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:16,400 who tells you, this sound is good or not 167 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,030 But with this device, you can see the movement of the tongue 168 00:19:19,030 --> 00:19:22,000 and the movement of the complete instrument can't you? 169 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,510 So, for me, viewing the vocal tract contributes 170 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:29,870 to taking control of the tongue, which is very important 171 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:35,000 (a singer knows that almost 70% of the pronunciation is guided by the tongue) 172 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Having a device that shows you the inside is great 173 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,150 because you're seeing each phrase, each note 174 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:50,300 every musical leap, you are seeing if the tongue's position is correct 175 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:56,880 if you are just opening, as we saw earlier using endoscopy with Alfonso 176 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,080 This lets me see if it is right or wrong 177 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:09,990 because I can compare the sound and the image 178 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:17,250 If I use only my ear or my sensations I may or may not detected it 179 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:19,000 but if I have a device it is easier 180 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,240 I now know this defect because I saw that the palate did not rise 181 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,560 and after when I sing a whole song 182 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,580 this device lets me see where I have failed 183 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:40,020 It is a little slow, and with this system the real movement of the tongue and pharynx 184 00:20:40,020 --> 00:20:42,720 is not so precise as the analysis of the sound 185 00:20:42,730 --> 00:20:47,040 but it will be a very great help for singers, no doubt 186 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:54,410 When we saw the MRI, the images weren't of KiriTeKanawa 187 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:56,730 it was another person who was singing 188 00:20:56,730 --> 00:20:59,980 but we listened to both together, in parallel 189 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Now, let's have some fun watching the endoscopy 190 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:20,310 When you see the endoscopic systems that doctors use 191 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:30,280 the true merit belongs to the engineers who have worked and researched 192 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:36,320 and spent hours without sleep so that medicine could save lives 193 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,190 When an artist such as Sara Lundberg, from Stockholm 194 00:21:42,190 --> 00:21:47,570 uses these endoscopies she can entertain us a lot